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cherche familles FÜREDER et HAUNEGGER du côté de Vienne

michel7784
michel7784
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Bonsoir,

je suis à la recherche d’informations sur ces deux familles. Toutes deux sont liées à notre famille : la première par Maria Magdalena LEMAHIEU épouse de FÜREDER Thomas Eduard par un mariage daté du 4 janvier 1952 à Wien Penzing, la seconde, qui n'est autre que la fille de la première, Ida OPLINUS, née d'un premier mariage, qui a suivi sa mère à Vienne et y a épousé HAUNEGGER Kurt Johann le 11 Avril 1953.

Hormis ces dates précises, je n'ai plus que des suppositions, dont celle du décès de Maria Magdalena en 1962, le veuf s'etant ensuite remarié en 1963 avec Maria GLASER.

Si quelqu'un pouvait m'orienter pour de nouvelles recherches je suis preneur...

Merci d'avance

Michel

jungleland
jungleland
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Hello michel,

here is the baptismal entry of Füreder Thomas Eduard:
http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/14-breitensee/01-20/?pg=91

Born on 17.09.1918, baptised on 20.09.1918. Illegitimate child of the Füreder Maria.
Died on 13.12.1995
1. marriage with Maria Magdaleine Lemahieu on 05.01.1952
2. marriage to Maria Hameseder, born Glaser on 28.11.1963

Recognition of paternity to the child Thomas Peter Glaser, born on 15.01.1963

Baptismal entry Füreder Maria:
http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/oberoesterreich/st-martin-im-muehlkreis/106%252F1885/?pg=2

Born on 04.01.1885 in Allersdorf, Parish St. Martin im Mühlkreis, Upper Austria.
Illegitimate daughter of Füreder Maria, a daughter of Füreder Franz and Wolfsteiner Franziska.

Best regards from Vienna.
jungleland

jungleland
jungleland
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Thomas Füreder, born 17.09.1918 was buried 21.12.1995 at the Südwest-Cemetery in the 12th district of Vienna.

In the same grave are buried:
Füreder Maria, born 02.07.1924, buried 24.10.1995
Füreder Thomas, born 15.01.1963, buried 27.02.1997
Füreder Maria, buried 04.08.1952, age 67
Füreder Maria, buried 28.03.1962
Kohlross Renate, buried 26.01.1946, age 2
Povatz Franz, buried 13.07.1926, age 36

https://www.friedhoefewien.at/eportal3/ep/channelView.do/pageTypeId/75472/channelId/-55270

Best regards from Vienna.
jungleland

michel7784
michel7784
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Wonderful....
You brought us a great great pleasure with these informations about the family Füreder.
We are very grateful to you, and thank you very much.
Would it be too much to ask to you to see if you can also find out about the couple HAUNEGGER Kurt Johann and OPLINUS Ida?
They married on April 11, 1953 in Vienna (no idea of the parish).
I did not find them in the phone book neither than on the site of the cemeteries of Vienna.
Here in Belgium as well as in Switzerland, in the home of a distant cousin who is also looking for them, we pray to find them alive... and to have the happiness to meet them before they go....
My great cousin's father is a first cousin of Ida, he disn't have any news since her expatriation to Austria in 1951, and at 88 years ....
Time is running out...

Thank you for your help.

Best regards from Belgium

Michel

jungleland
jungleland
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Hello Michel,

you cannot search for the marriage entry online, as the retention period for marriage registers in Austria is 75 years.

So we'll have to look for another way...

Are you sure that the name HAUNEGGER is correct? This name is nowhere to be found.

One more question: Do you know the date of birth of Oplinus Ida and Haunegger Kurt Johann?

Best regards.

michel7784
michel7784
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I'm waiting for a reaction from the staff of the civil state of Zonnebeke, from whom I had already obtained the previous information.
I've asked them to check on the name Haunegger.
I'll get back to you as soon as I have an answer.
Have a nice weekend
Michel

michel7784
michel7784
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Hello,

A bit late, but I had to wait for an answer, it came today, and ..... It seems correct to doubt about the name HAUNEGGER.
I join the latest document I received, and effectively, I'd say the name seems to be ZAUNEGGER.
Comparing the capital letters on this document it couldnt be a "H" just see the middle name of the father .
Secondly, comparing the first letter of the name and the firdst letter of the city gives a good impression that it could be a " Z" as in Zonnebeke.

So I wish that this time it wil be helpfulll to find some information .

thank you in advance for your help.

Michel
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michel7784
michel7784
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Research quitely ended.
I found the grave of Ida Maria ZAUNEGGER in the Central burying place of Vienna.
She died in 2001 on 12 of January.
Looking to find out if she had children.

Best regards

Michel

jungleland
jungleland
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Hello Michel,
Zaunegger was my guess, too.

There is a grave at the Vienna Central Cemetery of a Zaunegger Ida-Maria, born on 27.04.1933, died on 12.01.2001, buried on 31.01.2001. The right of use of the grave expired at the end of January 2011. 10 years is the normal right of use of a grave in Vienna, which means that nobody has extended the right of use. It is therefore possible that this grave has already been abandoned.

Unfortunately I am at home at the moment after an operation, but I will have a look at the grave in a few weeks.

And Zaunegger Kurt-Johann: There is a grave of a Zaunegger Kurt, born on 14.10.1925, buried on 04.10.1996 at Baumgarten cemetery in Vienna.
At this cemetery we have our family grave, I will have a look at this grave as well.

In the meantime I will see if I can find anything in the parish registers.

I am sorry that I cannot send you more beautiful messages.

Best regards from Vienna.
jungleland

michel7784
michel7784
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Hello,
Very happy with this beautiful collaboration miles away from home. Thank you and have a good recovery.

Warm regards from Belgium

Michel

PS If you go to the cemetery can you take a picture of the grave?

jungleland
jungleland
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Hello Michel,

because of the current situation it was not possible for me to drive to the Vienna Central Cemetery earlier.

Unfortunately the grave of Zaunegger Ida-Maria does not exist anymore. (Photo in the attachment)

Next week I will go to the Baumgartner Cemetery and will have a look at the grave of Zaunegger Kurt.

In the parish registers I have found the following entry only: Zaunegger Leopoldine Rosa, born 1899.
http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/15-fuenfhaus/01-24/?pg=168

The mother of her is Urbanitsch Rosa, born in 1871, who could be buried as Zaunegger Rosa in the same grave as Zaunegger Kurt. The year of birth matches the entry in the online grave search. And Zaunegger Leopoldine Rosa, born in 1899, married a Stangl Friedrich in 1962. The name Stangl appears in this grave also.

Best regards from Vienna.
jungleland
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michel7784
michel7784
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Vielen dank Freund,

Thanks a lot dear, ( I don't know your first name )

If I understand the parish register goes over a sister of Kurt Zaunegger ?

I got a few further in the cemeteries listings and found more persons with the same name, buried around Wien.
Perhaps it'll give some other perspectives with a research inn some parish registers.

Thanks again for all your investigations.

Best regards from Belgium

Michel
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jungleland
jungleland
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Hello Michel,
you can find the photos of three graves at the Baumgartner cemetery here:
https://de.geneanet.org/friedhof/view/8486642
https://de.geneanet.org/friedhof/view/8486643
https://de.geneanet.org/friedhof/view/8486644

I found the following entries in the parish registers:
Marriage Zaunegger Anton, 34 years old and Urbanitsch Rosa, 19 years old, on 11.10.1890 in St. Georgen im Ybbsfeld in Lower Austria.
https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/st-poelten/st-georgen-ybbsfelde/02%252F06/?pg=95

Baptismal entry Zaunegger Friedrich Otto, born on 02.11.1897, son of Zaunegger Anton and Urbanitsch Rosa
https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/15-fuenfhaus/01-22/?pg=236

The entry was later completed with: married on 14.06.1920 with Leopoldine Kostistansky Pfarre Neumargareten and then again with: died on 10.03.1973.

Here is the entry in the marriage book of Zaunegger Friedrich Otto and Kostistansky Leopoldine Theresia: https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/12-neumargareten/02-15/?pg=88
It is noted that she died November 12, 1966.

I hope I could help a little bit.
Best regards from Vienna.

michel7784
michel7784
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Whoow,

I'M READING ALL THIS WITHOUT VOICE, Thanks a million times for these rich informations.
I'll try to find someone to translate all of them , old Austrian handwriting is pretty hard to understand for me.
Must find someone who could transcript all these informations in actual German in a first time then try to translate and understand all them. It seems to be very rich material.

if I can one day help you and return the favour for research in Belgium or in the north of Fance, do not hesitate, I will do everything possible.
Very grateful

Best regards

Michel

jungleland
jungleland
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Hello, Michel,
I've still translated the entries.
Marriage Zaunegger Anton, 34 years old and Urbanitsch Rosa, 19 years old, on 11.10.1890 in St. Georgen im Ybbsfeld in Lower Austria.
https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/st-poelten/st-georgen-ybbsfelde/02%252F06/?pg=95
Anton Zaunegger k.k. Postassistent, ehelicher Sohn des Anton Zaunegger, Wund- und Geburtsarztes in Attergau in Oberösterreich und dessen Ehegattin Elisabeth, geborene Reichl und Rosa Katharina Urbanitsch, Private, eheliche Tochter des verstorbenen Joseph Urbanitsch, Kondukteur in Hüttenberg in Kärnten, und der noch lebenden Veronika, dessen Ehegattin, geborene Kremser, beide katholischer Religion

Anton Zaunegger k.k. Postal assistant, legitimate son of Anton Zaunegger, wound- and birthdoctor in Attergau in Upper Austria and his wife Elisabeth, born Reichl and Rosa Katharina Urbanitsch, private, legitimate daughter of the died Joseph Urbanitsch, conductor in Hüttenberg in Carinthia, and of the still living Veronika, his wife, born Kremser, both Catholic

Baptismal entry Zaunegger Friedrich Otto, born on 02.11.1897, son of Zaunegger Anton and Urbanitsch Rosa
https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/15-fuenfhaus/01-22/?pg=236

The entry was later completed with: married on 14.06.1920 with Leopoldine Kostistansky Pfarre Neumargareten and then again with: died on 10.03.1973.
... Zaunegger Anton, geboren 7.7.1856 .... Rosa Katharina Urbanisch, geboren 24.01.1871 ...

Here is the entry in the marriage book of Zaunegger Friedrich Otto and Kostistansky Leopoldine Theresia: https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/12-neumargareten/02-15/?pg=88
It is noted that she died November 12, 1966.
Kostistansky Leopoldine Theresia, ohne Beruf, geboren am 5. Juni 1895 zu Wien 12., Pfarre Meidling und zuständig, eheliche Tochter des Anton Kostistansky, Schuhmacher, und der Theresia, geborene Schibik, beide lebend, katholischer Religion

Kostistansky Leopoldine Theresia, no profession, born on 5 June 1895 in Vienna 12, Parish Meidling and responsible, legitimate daughter of Anton Kostistansky, shoemaker, and Theresia, born Schibik, both living, Catholic


By the way, here is the baptismal entry from Kostistansky Leopoldine Theresia vom 5. Juni 1895:
https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/12-meidling/01-44/?pg=268
Father: Kostistansky Anton, catholic, shoemaker from Vilinov in Bohemia, son of Kostistansky Josef and Karoline Tichotovi
Mother: Schibik Theresia, catholic, from Jedenspeigen in Lower Austria, daughter of Peter Schibik and Theresia Geyder.

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